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June 2000

06.29.2000

I keep an outline of urls I mean to check out at some later date. I just realized I have 124 urls on my list...

Going XHTML: "The bad news is that you have to change your coding practices" - yeah the "lower case" bothers me, (the 'i' stands for 'case insensitive' but there's no 'i' in XHTML) and I'm a little bothered by having to place quotes around all attribute values, but eventually I'll probably do it. I'd like to work on making a version of this page well-formed with respect to XHTML. The author of the article doesn't seem sold on it. Maybe he doesn't write lots of code to extract bits of text from HTML pages though...

"XHTML is the reformulation of HTML 4 as an application of XML. It looks very much like HTML 4, with a few notable exceptions, so if you're familiar with HTML 4, XHTML will be easy to learn and use." from an Introduction to XHTML.

How about the Benefits of Using XHTML Over HTML?

I think things might be coming full circle. Even now, any moron with Dreamweaver can build a site, and make it look good (note emphasis on look not function) within the context of a desktop PC (running Windows/MSIE most likely) Even my recent experiments with building AvantGo content illustrates that people with a deeper understanding of content, display/presentation, compatibility, and the other numerous issues will become that much more important. I know, all the Flash artists feel they're blazing the way, and Flash does do some interesting stuff - but as a comment I saw recently said "do you want to pin everything you've got on one company?" - be it Macromedia or Microsoft, I don't see it as a good strategy...

Today's message is: Don't underestimate what a small team of dedicated and optimistic people can do, even in the face of large and powerful corporations. Remember this lesson, file it away - better yet, keep it handy. It's important. It's got to remain important. It's all about revolution, man...

I got an email from Wired's Webmonkey kids, one of those newsletter things that used to be useful. I actually had to read it twice just to see if there was actually a message amidst the hip and wacky overheard commentary and the sponsorship ads... sheesh!

Ha! This stuff on Frahm is wacky... I laughed and laughed and laughed at this study on the "effects of celery on loose elastic" hee hee...

Dammit cron, stop emailing me... I mean dammit network, let cron do it's job so it doesn't have to email me letting me know it couldn't do it's job. (that's what ya get with a hobbled together system that's been left to die by the wayside... sigh...)

Yay! I finally got the ILOVEYOU virus in an email. See, I didn't get it the first time :( I know, you're saying "Gee, you're lucky" but, I wanted to get it. First of all, I don't use Windows/Outlook for mail. I use Eudora on the Mac, telnet and Elm, VMS Mail, or a web based interface. Besides, I wouldn't run or open an attachament I was unsure of. I remember reading something about ISP's deleting the virus before it went to their customers. If my ISP did this to me, and they might have, I'm pissed! I should decide what mail I want, right? What gives them the right to delete something I may want? I should pursue legal action. (well, not really...)

IBM Builds World's Fastest Supercomputer - Hey, VA Linux, care to top that? I'm sure it's a fast computer and all, but nothing Slashdot couldn't bring to it's knees. (If it has knees.)

I need a to get a new cell phone. Maybe I should get 16 cell phones. Hmmm?

If you like Taco Bell, you might like Taco Hell?

Mozilla put to use. Alright...

MySQL released under the GPL is a good thing. Forming a 'strategic alliance' with VA Linux, will hopefully, be a good thing. I'm not totally sold on VA Linux and their acquiring of everything Linux or Open Source related.

Ryan and Quaid split. I guess she finally got a good look at him. ;)

06.28.2000

Here's a power-user option I'd like to see. Some sites have a 'remember me' with the login that sets a cookie. I've seen one site that said 'remember me for a week' How about letting me choose when the cookie expires? Hmmm, that'd be nice.

Another one, I got a phone call from a software company. They mentioned after trying to sell me something that they updated their site. So I go there, and see that I can register, but... shouldn't they already have my name and phone number and other info, since they called me? Can't they tie those things together somehow?

Do you support users? Do you have at least one user who immediately calls you to their desk anytime they get a dialog box they've never seen before? I mean, if you click 'Ok' to most dialog boxes, you can be reasonably sure it won't launch a nuclear missle or remotely kill someone... maybe I just have that 'hacker' mentality (groan...)

If you liked saucemaster, you'll love the angry red planet...

The quote sez: "Over 86 percent of computers with Web browsers have Internet Explorer installed..." Well, 'installed' and 'preferred browser' are two different things. It also says that version 6 of Netscape's browser was released this spring. Gee, I don't remember that... I remember a 'Preview Release' being made available though...

A List Apart's AvantGo channel needs some work. It's huge, and unoptimized for delivery to the AvantGo browser on a handheld device. Yeah, I work with this stuff for a week or two and I'm an expert... They do say it's 'experimental' so I'll cut them a (little) bit of slack. It appears to be trying to load hundreds of pages though... something is wrong somewhere... (note: check the link depth)

06.27.2000

Poor little Emma was sick last night, threw up twice. The second time she started running to the bathroom, didn't make it, puked in the hallway, and the slipped in it and fell on her butt. If I had seen that happen to an adult on a sit-com, I would have laughed my ass off. Unfortunately, that's not what happened. She had thrown up earlier on Shana's driveway and one of the dogs tried to eat it. Mmmm, nothing like regurgitated carrots and potato chips...

I've almost got the AvantGo version of this site done. I've tried to make it handheld friendly, although I've only tested on a Palm using AvantGo so far. I think I've kept it simple enough that it should work with other devices and software as well. More info is over here...

Synchronicity: Zeldman sez "A List Apart now has an experimental AvantGo channel..."

Speaking of which, if you haven't checked out Greasy Skillet yet, do so now... The 'audio log' thing is similar to an idea I had a while back, but of course, never executed... Dave of Greasy Skillet also has a handheld version of his site, and helped with ALAP's version.

A Sony Palm? 64MB? 128MB? My lowly 2MB Palm III is looking a bit weak lately...

Yahoo's Mobile News Library...

Frikin' advertising... I can't even buy a case of soda without being assaulted with an ad on every can, sheesh... it's almost as annoying as Flash...

I totally forgot about MacHack... There's a special report at MacWeek.

Ack! ALL will be at Summerfest. I know these things shouldn't surprise me. Actually what surprises me the most is that they're still together. Well, if you consider them 'together' without Dave Smalley...

06.26.2000

Ah, just a few more days til Summerfest, or as I like to call it: Traffic-hellfest...

Speaking of Bummerfest, there's a quote from Davey about the Promise Ring on their site...

Oh, and don't forget, those damn Gufs are playing, perhaps this time Milt and I will destroy them...

I should send some info to this site: Milwaukee Musicians Resource Page. I could help fill in some gaps in their band listing. Sure, the Speek Freaks are listed, and Dr. Shrinker, but no Buried? No Ten Boy Summer? ;)

I got email from my cousin. She said she didn't understand most of what I was talking about on this site, but she did manage to find the stuff about the kids. That sounds about right...

Next time you're given some mundane task like plugging in drives and booting up the server, make it fun! Pretend you're launching a rocket! You can include sound effects, and funny voices, just make sure the server room door is closed...

06.23.2000

Hit-or-Miss has this piece - An Open Letter to Blogger: Ideas about a Native-Comments System Which I found interesting. I had thought about this a while back when metajohn made predictions about a 'Blogger powered comment/discussion' feature...

C|Net has a bit on sound rollovers. I was trying to get similar functionality about 3 years ago using pure JavaScript... damn thing never worked right... The author does say "it hasn't tested well on IE 5.0 for the Mac" Well, I tested it. It doesn't work. Oops...

I like Powazek's stance. What, no link? That's right no link... just a message to people who come to this site and read just this page... there's more here... really...

Wes sez:

"I've only had 3 or 4 crashes so far today; that means I have about 10 left before meeting my Mac's daily quota."
ha ha ha ha... it's funny cuz it's true...

I've been working on a handheld 'friendly' version of this site - just a few pages really. Not like anyone will actually want to take this with them. But in case you do... it'll be possible. I'll be making an AvantGo channel, but hopefully it'll be compatible with the other mobile stuff as well - small, lightweight, minimal graphics, maximum text.... ahhh...

See, the above is a learning experience. I should have said if anyone besides me finds the handheld version useful, I'll be surprised. It's been useful to me. I learned something new. That's what's it all about, learning... not getting kicked in the head.

I'm a publisher. I have been a publisher for about 15 years. I'm a computer nerd. I have been a computer nerd for about 20 years. Foo!

06.21.2000

I added some of Emma's drawings in the Kids section. Sometimes I think the only true form of free, creative drawing comes from children, before school beats them down into submission with the 'right' and 'wrong' way to do things. Then again, I tend to over analyze things.

The wife called, seems Maddy is all covered in hives again... my response: "poison hivey"

Some comments on this: Outcome doesn't worry most software customers. "Customers are going to wonder what applications they should get..." (yup, it's called 'freedom of choice') "Actually, I'm not looking so much for innovation as I'm looking for an uptick in quality" (practically the Microsoft customers motto, beside, we all know you don't look to Microsoft for 'innovation') "...since colleges are used to running an assortment of operating systems... I doubt it's going to have any effect on the distribution of software on campus" (the kids are all right ;)

We all loved the classic post "I'm burping garlic fries" Now you can own the domain: ImBurpingGarlicFries.com is still available!

Try a Google search for I'm burping garlic fries!

Forgot where I found it (sorry!) but BBEdit Tips and Tricks.

I'm going local (or is that loco?) I've been doing some research on on Milwaukee (and Wisconsin) sites done by people. Be they weblogs, blogs, diaries, or (gasp!) personal home pages. Hopefully I can compile a list, hey, maybe I'll even email the people I find...

"Get your stinkin' paws off my content you damned, dirty apes!"

Marketing? "A planet where apes evolved from men?"

Design? "You maniacs! You blew it up! Damn you! Damn you all to hell!"

Management? "The only good human... is a dead human!"

Programmers? "All knowledge is for good. Only the use to which you put it can be good or evil."

It's all about Planet of the Apes, man...

06.20.2000

Oh, I knew the record industry was evil. I've known it for years. I knew it back when I started a band, when I printed shirts for other bands, when I printed stickers and patches and flyers, and put out zines and put on shows, and went on tour and recorded stuff, and... I guess some people didn't know, but now they're starting to know. I knew these things, that's why I routed around them, and worked with others who routed around them. We knew... In the underground music scene, it's a D.I.Y. kinda thing. Why? Big Bizness sucks, that's why... Remember, money taints art, and if music isn't art, then it's just another product for consumers to blindly ingest, like the poisons that fill our air, the audio poison fills the airwaves of commercial radio, breathe in the rich flavor of music manufactured by and for big business, and choke on it consumers... how does it feel? Support independent bands and labels, talk trash about any band you think is selling-out... whatever it takes... I played music because I loved it, not to be famous, not to sing a contract, not to be the next big thing... I did it for love, that's it - truth and honesty. I know people who did turn their love of playing music into a 'career' and sometimes I'm not sure how they can justify it. Maybe it doesn't bother them, but it bugs the hell out of me. I vowed I wouldn't do it. Art is too important... where's the creativity dammit! (see this stuff if you need to: Hole, Woz, Albini)

In today's world (meaning pervasive use of the internet by a large majority of people) I can't imaging why anyone who loves creating music would think they need some large record company to screw them... maybe that's just me...

Ack! I almost missed a boy and his basement's 1 year birthday

Interesting info on Text-friendly Authoring. I've been researching delivery of web content to handheld devices lately. Lot's of good stuff at AvantGo's site...

AvantGo makes me wish I had 8 mb of RAM on my Palm... or more...

AvantGo's job listing for a Web Designer probably turns off everyone I know who calls themselves a 'web designer': "...interest in designing for limited screen real estate and color depth." (Gee, no flash? No color? You call that design? "user experience?" bah!)

Looks like AvantGo has some ex-NeXT people at the helm...

Fun? You like fun? Today I'm browsing using the Palm OS Emulator (POSE) with AvantGo on my desktop computer. So I've got a big 'virtual palm' with a web browser. I just checked out this site, now I'm hitting some others - wheee... I should do some screen shots...

Ok, AvantGo isn't the only game in town (and there appears to be no *nix client) so Sitescooper and similar software should also be looked at...

If you go to pyra.com today, it says Blogger is a "kick-ass weblog publishing tool." I'd like to know exactly whose ass it kicked, or whose ass it's currently kicking?

More Linux stuff going on...

It's been a long day...

06.19.2000

[1993 - a long time ago... in a scene far far away...]

7 years... oh yeah, 7 years. It doesn't seem that long. But it is... the victory lap in Waukesha... and Madison, oh sweet wonderful Madison...

8 years ago I thought Shaft was pretty cool. Now the rest of you do too? Hmmm. Oh, if you like Shaft, you'll love Truck Turner! 8 years ago forsaw bits of the future to come...

6 years ago I was at the city dump. Yup...

Looking in a dumpster and seeing it empty is like finding an expired coupon. You feel cheated.

I, like MrBarrett, and our good friend SpongeBob, ripped my pants the other day. Well, mine we're shorts actually. I was playing hide-and-seek and was crouching down near the house when 'riiippp!' I got too close to the hose spigot. ouch... When's the last time you played hide-and-seek?

Damn animals... Shana's cat attacked me, I later found out the black and white one was the retarded one, not the yellow one. ugh. Even the rats are being a bit hostile. And the fish, well, they're just sort of ugly. I've come to dislike even our own fish.

Today Sam McPheeter's reminded me of this: "The dollar dances on our asses!"

06.18.2000

Paid $1.94 for non-reformulated the other day in Neosho (Neosho sucks) we drove further to Hustisford again and it was $1.90 - wow, 4 cents savings... well, 20 cents savings since the reformulated was up to $2.10 - grrr...

Today is Father's Day - I love being a Dad, because I love my kids. Hey kids, I LOVE YOU! ;)

I am old...

06.16.2000

Gouged for gas? I paid $1.94 per gallon yesterday and $1.80 last week for non-reformulated gas. The reformulated gas was $2.05 earlier this week. the dork told me that in Milwaukee he paid around $2.15! You can only get non-reformulated gas by driving a few counties away from where Milwaukee is located. The government sucks. Oil companies suck. Gas stations suck. The stations on the edge of the counties jack up the price a bit to screw ya, but you're still getting it cheaper than you would otherwise, and you're getting a gasoline that's better for your car, and gives better mileage... damn, damn, damn...

I paid $10.00 for 5 gallons the other day. That hurts...

People are wondering what 'content' is? People say they don't create 'content'...

It's simple really: 'Content' is Art - without any Soul.

Yup... content = art - soul

Quoth the Woz: "...I want to be an engineer and make neat things for my own fun, forever." Gotta love the Woz!

06.15.2000

I forgot... I wrote a Ramble a while back called pageme, so go read it... and see evilbeverage if you haven't read that one yet...

I've mentioned pagers before... I've mentioned lots of things before... My theory is that soon enough I'll be able to just link to things I've said in the past and not provide any new content. How's that sound? Let's give it a try.

Today starts my 9 days of taking care of Shana's animals. I don't think we have to deal with Sid the wheelie dog, Hunter the dog-that-bites-and-kills-rabbits, or the other one, but we do have to feed the fish, and the rats, and the cats. (Ok, some of those were a stretch)

3 days...

06.14.2000

What are people saying about Rasterboy? "I'm not sure when you're being sarcastic." Ahh, that's the beauty of Rasterboy. We put the 'as' in 'sarcastic'

I email someone a url to an article I think they might be interested in. They call me and ask what it's about. I ask if they read it. They tell me they didn't look at the url yet. I suggest they do... I forward someone an email about a free seminar they might be interested in. The send me an email asking me why I sent it. I tell them I thought they might be interested. I cringe... I remember the directive I was given, "share what you know" and I go on...

I took two days off from the office, and now I'm back. I've been sitting at my desk for almost 4 hours trying to catch up. It's truly painful. How the hell did I ever manage to take a week off last year?

My fave .coms include: Wedonthaveawebsite.com and Ideot.com

We don't have a Canyonero, and we won't be getting an SUV. (SUV of course stands for 'Sport Utility Vehicle') What we do have is a 'Utility Vehicle' which is a fancy way of saying we have a van. I figure it's a vehicle, and the word 'utility' describes it quite well. So there. (I guess I could call our car a 'PV' for 'Passenger Vehicle')

Asking for a platform/browser neutral web in three easy steps: 1, 2, 3. Thanks, MrBarret!

The latest from Intel: iMac Covers™!

G4 in Space! Let's hope it doesn't crash like the G4 on my desk does...

4 days and counting...

06.08.2000

This reminds me that Cam is a 'real writer' while I'm just a hack... either that or he's got more time on his hands...

I'm sick of the new, it's time for the old... time for me to dig thru the archives! Prepare for trouble...

Backwards compatibility? On the PowerMac G4 I got this year I managed to open a MacPaint file using MacPaint 2.0, which appears to be dated March 1988. MacPaint 2.0 runs in 512k of RAM, takes up 132k of disk space and has tear-off menu palettes! The file I opened was dated June 19, 1984 and it was a VW Bus, so I gave it to mr. cyberdork. I should dig out the Mac Plus I have at home and just use MacPaint for all my graphics from now on... [screen shot]

I tried 31337 on Dictionary.com. Yup, it's there. (well, sort of)

Does anyone know what a "mac knob" is? I've looked high and low for some sort of dial-like device on my G4, but found nothing...

A human-powered lawn mower is what my wacky neighbor uses...

The two most vile, disgusting, sickening words in the english language, words that, at the mere utterance, make people retch in horror: corporate standard

High-school high-jinks... [via Blanketfort] I'm not sure if I agree with the statement "...it's degrading to women" as it was the women/girls themselves who decided to do this. I'd like to ask them if they feel they degraded themselves. Hmmm, maybe some of them did, as high-school (hell-on-earth) is a pretty degrading experience as it is...

This article on IBM's Site Revamp tells us "Nearly 70 percent of shoppers on IBM's site abandon their shopping carts before completing their orders" which tells me I need to do more 'shopping cart abandoning' as it will lead to companies redesigning their sites and questioning themselves. On some sites you need to get to the point of ordering, and then abandon it, just to see what the shipping costs will be. Now that's a well designed shopping cart.

MacWEEK: Jobs: Apple to deliver the best Java. Steve... buddy... pal... how about delivering "the best perl ever" huh? Or maybe the best OS ever? Best interface? Ah, Steve probably believes he's already done those things, or is in the process of doing them.

06.07.2000

Microsoft has always been 'broken' - now they'll be 'broken in two' ;) I just hope the consumer wins, and by that I mean I hope Microsoft loses... or something like that...

Alright, ok... this is my take on things - if you consider yourself a "web developer" you'd better consider more than one platform! While I don't particularly like Windows, I do build things that will work there. They'll also work under the Mac OS, and *nix if I do it right. Right? Repeat after me: The web *is* the platform...

mod_perl intro at Apache Today: "Deja.com serves about 160 million page views per month. It's uses a cluster of mod_perl enabled Apache servers running on the Linux operating system."

Hmmm, I wanted to do some research on TTC (time-to-content) so I tried Google and got my own site in the top 5 results... gee, thanks... that helps... I guess I invented the term "TTC (time-to-content)" I guess it's "time-to-patent" it...

This thing is wacky! Oh, the things you learn from referer logs...

Ohhh, don't forget kiddies, tonight on Fox, it's Britney's Spheres! Find a blank tape now!

Last night's Behind the Music featured The Go-Go's, which I think, proves my point about most bands getting their power through being volatile and lasting only a short time. There are of course, exceptions to the rule...

Fugazi's Instrument would make a great birthday gift. Know anyone with a birthday coming up soon?

I found VH-1's 404 page slightly amusing...

Here's how it works... I need an answer about Windows. I try calling some dork but he's probably at home eating lunch with riotgrrrl and some hyperactive dogs, so I then try the 'official channel' yes, the SUPPORT email address they tell us to use, and actually assume we will use, then I post it here on this site. Then the dork gets back to me saying "Windows sucks" (I'm paraphrasing here) then Danpathy emails me and also says "Windows sucks" and says you need some 3rd party app. then in last place... the 'official channel' of support.... that's how it works... All this because Windows can't do what the Mac OS has been able to do for years... ugh... (note to self: hire Dan as Windows answer man) Oh, I almost forgot! The 'official channel' of support didn't even give a good answer, mainly because I don't think they understood my question... ugh... ugh...

Integrating Linux/sendmail with NT/Exchange? This idea seems simple and brilliant at the same time. I'd love for the NT people shoving Exchange/Outlook Express down our throats to take this approach... sigh...

The Road to Linux is a rough road. After hard drive failure, and lack of me getting around to finding a NIC and buying more RAM, I've managed to 'find' a PowerMac (an 8500 no less!) to put LinuxPPC on... so that's my new task.

All? No, All!

06.06.2000

Windows... yes, it's giving me a headache. Is there a way to print to a Postscript file under Windows? On the Mac this appears to be an operating system feature. It's available to any application via the Print dialog box. The OS just spools the Postscript to a file instead of sending to a printer. Can this be done under Windows? Second question... Under the Mac OS I can also change the percentage of anything I print via the Page Setup dialog box. Under Windows this seems to rarely be an option. Is this application specific? Printer specific? Or some evil combination of the two...?

Got some old BASIC programs lying around in the bit-bucket? perl to the rescue!

"a proprietary wireless media platform..." - ooh, love that proprietary stuff! (Found on the "Upoc Corporate Home Page")

Down with Porn! Up with Corn!

I just now heard about eComplaints... Some complaints seem goofy, and there can't be too many people using it, since my search for complaints on Microsoft only turned up 27 responses... at least you can complain about eComplaints at eComplaints.

This has been an odd week, yesterday was my brother's birthday, and my niece was hospitalized, today the other side of the family had the family dog die... I think my father-in-law lost his best friend...

Animals are interesting indeed. I lived with a cat for nearly 23 years. I'm cat people. But then again, dogs seem to love me, my wife grew up with my father-in-law's dog, but the dog seemed to like me better ;) Animals love me. My wife is convinced that animals (by that she means cats) can sense that you don't like them, and will come closer to you to bother you... Since cats bother her allergies (and she ain't 'cat people') they always come right to her. It's kind of amusing actually. Well, to me anyway...

Next week I have to take care of Shana's animals again. I think I'll have to hide from Emma the fact that the rabbit died a while back. Two deaths in a week might be a bit much.

"The rabbit died" used to mean something else... (ask the Sandman...)

Which reminds me, I should dig up my Sandman comics... see, it's all related...

06.02.2000

Dave sez "I see meat being discussed on various Blogger sites" so I search Weblogs.com for "meat" and get 85 results! So I tried " meat " and got just 19. Anyway, didn't I mention meat about a week ago? Oh, if you think fish or chicken isn't meat, then what the hell is?

meat, no meat, no more meat, a little meat, no meat except for fish, meat, almost no meat...

Yes! I've finally got the low-down on the "shout out"- now I can be as cool as those kids half my age... can't I? (via twernt)

If you liked shout out, you'll love Scooby Doo.

Yeah, I love TV. I caught "Clerks" the other night, and I really thought I wouldn't like it. This coming from someone who likes more animated stuff that real-live-people stuff. I was still a bit wishy-washy until they launched into the Japanime-style "big American party" sequence. That did it. "Who is driving car!? Bear is driving car!!!"

My favorite response to bozlister comes from steal this blog!

oh dear God in heaven: if you've not seen this, you should. if you've just eaten, i'd advise against it. i honestly don't know what it is or why it is, but...GAH!...i think i'm....having...a...seizure.
The answer is of course, "because we can..."

One response to my question of "Should I 'get with the times' and update a little?":

"No. Content is king. Write more - code less."
This appears to be from Justin of shiningsilence.com, and he's got a Master's Degree in Information Technology. Crap, can't argue with that! Well, except for the fact that I love to code, so I'll keep the code in the invisible realm of being for now...

riotgrrrl continues to write really nutty stuff, which is quite cool (although all the talk of unicorns conjures images of a 12-year-old girl whose favorite color is purple) if that's not what you're looking for, you might try the i am a dork guy...

Oh, webmonkey sucks... well, their search sucks... If you like altavista (probably doubtful) you can use this link instead of the one above...

Sometimes I feel like I've lost my command of the english language... I think I try to write coherently too early in the morning.

06.01.2000

I think people in the office are playing a game where they pick someone to ask me a question... I think they try to pick someone I won't insult or make feel inferior... the fools... (I'm not really a BOFH I just play one on TV)

My advice? Just use perl...

Happiness is seeing that the code you wrote to deal with rolling over into a new month actually works... (pissed-off'edness is seeing that some other code you wrote didn't work...)

I'm deciding whether or not I should debut a new feature here (the word 'feature' is often a synonym for 'more useless crap') I get all weird when I think about adding simple things, or making any minor changes. This basic design has been in place for about 3 years now. I don't even use CSS or Javascript on this page. I know some people redesign their entire freakin' site almost every other day, I'm certainly not planning that, but is it time for a change? Should I 'get with the times' and update a little? What do you think? let me know...

 

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